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Old 08 Mar 2012, 04:25 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default Low Resistant Tires

Several years ago there were 4 low resistant tires listed here. Does anyone
still have that list? My Toyota dealer has no idea what a low resistant
tire is. I gave the list to them back then. They said they had a better
tire. It lowered my average mileage 10 mpg. A month later I complained.
They changed them. It then lowered my mileage only 5 mpg. Of course they
lost the list. I'll be getting a new set soon somewhere but It won't be
from them. Help.

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Old 08 Mar 2012, 05:11 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On 3/8/2012 5:25 PM, EARTHLINK EAST wrote:
> Several years ago there were 4 low resistant tires listed here. Does
> anyone still have that list? My Toyota dealer has no idea what a low
> resistant tire is. I gave the list to them back then. They said they had
> a better tire. It lowered my average mileage 10 mpg. A month later I
> complained. They changed them. It then lowered my mileage only 5 mpg. Of
> course they lost the list. I'll be getting a new set soon somewhere but
> It won't be from them. Help.



LRR Low Rolling Resistance Tires

<http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/search.htm?header_health_search.x=39&header_health _search.y=18&query=low+rolling+resistance+tires>
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Old 08 Mar 2012, 05:13 pm   #3 (permalink)
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In article <5Zmdna_RkeporMTSnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> ,
"EARTHLINK EAST" <camin@ed-camin.com> wrote:

> My Toyota dealer has no idea what a low resistant
> tire is.


"low rolling resistance"
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Old 09 Mar 2012, 11:24 am   #4 (permalink)
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Any tire design is necessarily a "tradeoff" balance or properties. LRR
might mean that the tire won't last as long, etc.

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:25:57 -0500, "EARTHLINK EAST"
<camin@ed-camin.com> wrote:

>Several years ago there were 4 low resistant tires listed here. Does anyone
>still have that list? My Toyota dealer has no idea what a low resistant
>tire is. I gave the list to them back then. They said they had a better
>tire. It lowered my average mileage 10 mpg. A month later I complained.
>They changed them. It then lowered my mileage only 5 mpg. Of course they
>lost the list. I'll be getting a new set soon somewhere but It won't be
>from them. Help.

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Old 09 Mar 2012, 12:05 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On 3/9/2012 12:24 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
> Any tire design is necessarily a "tradeoff" balance or properties. LRR
> might mean that the tire won't last as long, etc.
>



They are usually rock-hard, last forever, but don't grip.


> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:25:57 -0500, "EARTHLINK EAST"
> <camin@ed-camin.com> wrote:
>
>> Several years ago there were 4 low resistant tires listed here. Does anyone
>> still have that list? My Toyota dealer has no idea what a low resistant
>> tire is. I gave the list to them back then. They said they had a better
>> tire. It lowered my average mileage 10 mpg. A month later I complained.
>> They changed them. It then lowered my mileage only 5 mpg. Of course they
>> lost the list. I'll be getting a new set soon somewhere but It won't be
>>from them. Help.


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Old 09 Mar 2012, 12:30 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Grip" is an important property ...

On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:05:06 -0500, News <News@Group.Post> wrote:

>On 3/9/2012 12:24 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
>> Any tire design is necessarily a "tradeoff" balance or properties. LRR
>> might mean that the tire won't last as long, etc.
>>

>
>
>They are usually rock-hard, last forever, but don't grip.
>
>
>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:25:57 -0500, "EARTHLINK EAST"
>> <camin@ed-camin.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Several years ago there were 4 low resistant tires listed here. Does anyone
>>> still have that list? My Toyota dealer has no idea what a low resistant
>>> tire is. I gave the list to them back then. They said they had a better
>>> tire. It lowered my average mileage 10 mpg. A month later I complained.
>>> They changed them. It then lowered my mileage only 5 mpg. Of course they
>>> lost the list. I'll be getting a new set soon somewhere but It won't be
>>>from them. Help.

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Old 09 Mar 2012, 01:47 pm   #7 (permalink)
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In article <ifekl7p225lb7c4nbv7h7e6fsvikdtfsht@4ax.com>,
casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:

> Any tire design is necessarily a "tradeoff" balance or properties. LRR
> might mean that the tire won't last as long, etc.


and, of course, low rolling resistance = low braking ability, which of
course = issues with steering at higher speeds...
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Old 09 Mar 2012, 07:57 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Mar 9, 2:47*pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <ifekl7p225lb7c4nbv7h7e6fsvikdtf...@4ax.com>,
>
> *casagiann...@optonline.net wrote:
> > Any tire design is necessarily a "tradeoff" balance or properties. LRR
> > might mean that the tire won't last as long, etc.

>
> and, of course, low rolling resistance = low braking ability, which of
> course = issues with steering at higher speeds...


Your assumptions are just that, assumptions. Somebody mentioned short
tread life while somebody else said they last forever. The reality is
that it depends on what compound they use, among other things. Normal
rubber will come across as being hard when it doesn't get up to its
normal working temperature. With less rolling resistance there is
less heat build up in the tire. A softer compound can be used to
restore grip, but if they get too carriend away it results in short
tread life.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=155
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Old 10 Mar 2012, 05:30 am   #9 (permalink)
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In article
<02731c12-091b-426a-8488-a53b12b98a45@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Bruce Richmond <bsr3997@my-deja.com> wrote:

> > and, of course, low rolling resistance = low braking ability, which of
> > course = issues with steering at higher speeds...

>
> Your assumptions are just that, assumptions.


Low resistance = low resistance. If it's designed not to present
resistance to the roadway, then it's designed not to present resistance
to the roadway.

Stopping is just like going, but in the opposite direction...
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Old 10 Mar 2012, 06:29 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Mar 10, 6:30*am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <02731c12-091b-426a-8488-a53b12b98...@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> *Bruce Richmond <bsr3...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > and, of course, low rolling resistance = low braking ability, whichof
> > > course = issues with steering at higher speeds...

>
> > Your assumptions are just that, assumptions.

>
> Low resistance = low resistance. *If it's designed not to present
> resistance to the roadway, then it's designed not to present resistance
> to the roadway.
>
> Stopping is just like going, but in the opposite direction...


Rolling resistance and traction are two different things.
Underinflate a tire then smear grease on it and it will have high
rolling resistance with low traction.

Of course like a good troll you snipped "A softer compound can be used
to restore grip, but if they get too carriend away it results in short
tread life."

Or are we supposed to think you are funny for dwelling on the fact
that he left out "rolling" when he wrote "low resistance"? Oh, you're
so clever, not.
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