Toyota leaving the North American market to focus on the real future superpower...China?
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14 Jul 2010, 11:15 am
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Toyota leaving the North American market to focus on the real future superpower...China?
What do you guys think of this premise...is this recall just a ploy so Toyota has a reason to leave North America, I mean cmon....a rational mind would interpret this recall as outrageous. There is't a thing wrong with them. Could this be a Toyota tactic, so they don't have to deal with out of luck dealers and such? Your thoughts?
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14 Jul 2010, 11:20 am
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Conspiracy theories are wrong 99% of the time.
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14 Jul 2010, 11:23 am
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No fing way, Who told you that? Go smack them in the head with a cactus. They have invested so much already in the united states. if they left america they would lose so much money. 100 times as much as this recall is costing them... Even though they are down at the moment, it's part of any huge business. America is to high of a card to let go, even with china as a rising super power why would they give up the america? And why would they just up and leave everything to invest even more money into China? Toyota is here to stay. America is too big of a consumer to let go. Go smack whatever person told you that.
Or maybe it they left because kerosene was becoming obsolete and was soon superseded by electricity and natural gas because of its cheaper, more efficient and cleaner burning? just a guess though. I only see Kerosene heaters at construction sites now and they are loud huge polluting air smothering monsters. Toyota is a huge market and comparing that to kerosene heaters is like comparing a canoe to a cruise ship.... Thats why we don't see many whale oil distributing companies around anymore. It become obsolete.
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14 Jul 2010, 11:25 am
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It would not surprise me to see Toyota leave, and withdraw from North America. The Japanese have a history of this. Back in the ninties, Japan was the leading company for importing premium kerosene heaters--(whether or not your a fan of kerosene heaters)--They were sold for emergncy heat if the power went out, and to heat garages.They were called Kero-Sun heaters, and millions were sold, and many are still in use. No one made a better heater. But they did not want to be held accountable for defective units that could become dangerous. Because some people sued them for defective heaters, they completely withdrew from the American Market--and they now REFUSE to sell them here, even though they are sold world wide, in every country. It seems that the Japanese like to pull in the buck, until they are asked to be held accountable for product defects. They blamed our justice system for allowing the law suits, and as punishment, they withdrew Kero-Sun entirely. They will not even ship them here from Japan, even if you beg them to. Vindictive to the maximum. They thumbed their noses are our laws, and refused to sell them because they refused to be held accountable for any defective heaters that may on rare occasion, have been produced. And so it would not surprise me that they would once more thumb their nose at America, now that China will be needing millions of cars. I feel their bottom line is..."Buy what we make and like it, because we have our own rules.
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14 Jul 2010, 11:30 am
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They aren't leaving and they would not leave since they are taking over the automobile market.
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14 Jul 2010, 11:48 am
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It's insane to believe that they would leave by choice when there are so many Toyota slave puppets here in America just foaming at the mouth in anticipation of the next turd with wheels. But if they are forced out of the US, I would be very happy. It calls to mind a Ramones song;"Glad to see you go, go, go, go, goodbye,
Glad to see you go, go, go, go, goodbye..."
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14 Jul 2010, 11:54 am
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If you want to see something outrageous, check the recall history of the Big Three.
Toyota is big enough and smart enough to keep its position in NA and expand elsewhere at least until the market appreciates the products. After all, they are even produced in the US. As you probably know, auto makers have different lineups for different markets - a US model is unlikely to sell in China or Europe and vice versa.
If you check the reliability statistics over the years, you'll notice that Toyota (and Honda) have always been in the top 10. The rest of the pack, even the European premium brands, were way below one's expectations and with inconsistent results, to say the least.
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14 Jul 2010, 11:54 am
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No...this is not a Toyota tactic
They need to stay in North America, they need the big 3 (for competition)
This is all a hype by government, they have deliberately been abusing toyota and have found a way to improve the economy by constantly bringing them up to the media, Even GM, Chevy, and Ford makes recalls....GM has made a 1.5 million vehicle recall....the media never announced this, whats surprising is that half of the population don't even know about this. Chevy just made a power steering failure recall, media never announced this.....They're deliberately protecting American Car companies...WHy? because everyone knows about the bailout money they've asked...and also American Car companies are well known for their poor construction, horrible gas mileage and reliability. Because of this no one will buy them and go for Toyota.
But now since TOyota is sinking, this is their perfect opportunity for them to rise. People fail to realize that Toyota did this for a good cause, for safety purpose. Just imagine if GM had a problem, what about Chevy, or Ford.....simple they and the government would keep it quiet. More lawsuits will be filed and Government wouldn't do anything about it.......if media hits on them...they're in a lot of trouble.
Toyota cannot just pack its bags and head off to China, we need Toyota. Besides Some don't even care about this recall and despite that, they still won't trade their cars for an American car. I don't think this recall is that severe....
Toyota needs this intense competition from the Big 3, if they get the chance to increase, Toyota will improve better. then they would and so on. Its all competition, this is how a company strides for better improvement.
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14 Jul 2010, 11:58 am
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Never thought of that angle before. I thought it was a GM plot to kill Toyota so that they could get their market share back again.
This whole thing with Toyota is totally surreal. It is like the ultimate gang buster of all times. Congress will not be able to do a thing from what I hear other than shame them so these hearings are just a lot about nothing.
It could be that the Chinese are trying to buy them out and waiting for the lowest bid. If all this bad press continues, no one will be buying a Toyota. It may just vanish as a brand totally. The Chinese make their own vehicles and I am sure that are better engineered than the ones in this country.
In the near future, we may be seeing Chinese vehicles on these shores at rock-bottom prices. The Chinese and Japanese are the super powers now. The people work dirt cheap and put out award-winning quality which is hard to beat.
www.toyota.co.jp
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