Catalytic Converter Anti-Theft Protection

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Old 11 Sep 2010, 06:05 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default Catalytic Converter Anti-Theft Protection

I got a call on Wednesday night from a friend the next street over who
had the catalytic converter stolen off his 4-Runner during the night.

Searching on-line, I learned that Toyota trucks/SUVs are a prime target
for catalytic converter thieves because of the high clearance and the
ease of unbolting it or cutting the pipe.

I've been looking at the various theft protection devices:

"http://www.catclamp.com/"
"http://www.cat-lock.com/"
"http://store.winner-intl.com/the-cat-cuff-p27.aspx"

I'm thinking of just making my own with 5/16" wire rope since all of the
commercial ones use wire rope too.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see why a few turns of the wire
rope on the pipe going into each side of the converter, and then
cross-pattern spiral wrapping of the converter with the cable, then
running the cable through frame members one each end would not be as
good as the "cage" of horizontal cables used by the catclamp. I went
under the vehicle and tried it with rope today to see how much cable I'd
need. and it looks like about 20' would do it. I might also use some
steel cable ties to tie the cable together where it crosses.

"http://www.mcmaster.com/#orders/=8szfrj"
I'd use these bolted "swages" but I can route the cable so these are not
reachable to undo them with wrenches.

Any suggestions.


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Old 11 Sep 2010, 06:34 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:05:55 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
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>I got a call on Wednesday night from a friend the next street over who
>had the catalytic converter stolen off his 4-Runner during the night.
>
>Searching on-line, I learned that Toyota trucks/SUVs are a prime target
>for catalytic converter thieves because of the high clearance and the
>ease of unbolting it or cutting the pipe.
>
>I've been looking at the various theft protection devices:
>
>"http://www.catclamp.com/"
>"http://www.cat-lock.com/"
>"http://store.winner-intl.com/the-cat-cuff-p27.aspx"
>
>I'm thinking of just making my own with 5/16" wire rope since all of the
>commercial ones use wire rope too.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see why a few turns of the wire
>rope on the pipe going into each side of the converter, and then
>cross-pattern spiral wrapping of the converter with the cable, then
>running the cable through frame members one each end would not be as
>good as the "cage" of horizontal cables used by the catclamp. I went
>under the vehicle and tried it with rope today to see how much cable I'd
>need. and it looks like about 20' would do it. I might also use some
>steel cable ties to tie the cable together where it crosses.
>
>"http://www.mcmaster.com/#orders/=8szfrj"
>I'd use these bolted "swages" but I can route the cable so these are not
>reachable to undo them with wrenches.
>
>Any suggestions.
>


Yeah, buy a car not easily crawled under, and/or fabricate a cage of
1/4" bar stock to bolt over the cat.
Cables are too easy to cut.
Having to secure a cat is about the stupidest thing I've heard in
maybe 2 or 3 years.
What's the world coming to?

--Vic

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Old 11 Sep 2010, 06:40 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On 9/11/2010 3:34 PM, Vic Smith wrote:

> Yeah, buy a car not easily crawled under, and/or fabricate a cage of
> 1/4" bar stock to bolt over the cat.
> Cables are too easy to cut.
> Having to secure a cat is about the stupidest thing I've heard in
> maybe 2 or 3 years.
> What's the world coming to?


They fetch about $100 for the precious metals. Enough for a drug fix.

It's not that the cables are so hard to cut, it's the tools they use to
get the converter in 3 minutes won't work if the cables are blocking the
pipes, and the cables are more time-consuming to cut.

The bar stock is actually easier to cut with a battery powered
reciprocating saw than the steel cable.
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Old 11 Sep 2010, 06:41 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On 9/11/2010 3:40 PM, SMS wrote:
> On 9/11/2010 3:34 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
>
>> Yeah, buy a car not easily crawled under, and/or fabricate a cage of
>> 1/4" bar stock to bolt over the cat.
>> Cables are too easy to cut.
>> Having to secure a cat is about the stupidest thing I've heard in
>> maybe 2 or 3 years.
>> What's the world coming to?

>
> They fetch about $100 for the precious metals. Enough for a drug fix.
>
> It's not that the cables are so hard to cut, it's the tools they use to
> get the converter in 3 minutes won't work if the cables are blocking the
> pipes, and the cables are more time-consuming to cut.
>
> The bar stock is actually easier to cut with a battery powered
> reciprocating saw than the steel cable.


Oh, and once you replace a stolen one, at around $1000, they know where
to come for a new one.
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Old 11 Sep 2010, 07:20 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Sep 11, 6:41*pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 9/11/2010 3:40 PM, SMS wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 9/11/2010 3:34 PM, Vic Smith wrote:

>
> >> Yeah, buy a car not easily crawled under, and/or fabricate a cage of
> >> 1/4" bar stock to bolt over the cat.
> >> Cables are too easy to cut.
> >> Having to secure a cat is about the stupidest thing I've heard in
> >> maybe 2 or 3 years.
> >> What's the world coming to?

>
> > They fetch about $100 for the precious metals. Enough for a drug fix.

>
> > It's not that the cables are so hard to cut, it's the tools they use to
> > get the converter in 3 minutes won't work if the cables are blocking the
> > pipes, and the cables are more time-consuming to cut.

>
> > The bar stock is actually easier to cut with a battery powered
> > reciprocating saw than the steel cable.

>
> Oh, and once you replace a stolen one, at around $1000, they know where
> to come for a new one.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -


Ah...how I long for the good ole days of "test pipes".
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Old 11 Sep 2010, 07:27 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:40:24 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 9/11/2010 3:34 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
>
>> Yeah, buy a car not easily crawled under, and/or fabricate a cage of
>> 1/4" bar stock to bolt over the cat.
>> Cables are too easy to cut.
>> Having to secure a cat is about the stupidest thing I've heard in
>> maybe 2 or 3 years.
>> What's the world coming to?

>
>They fetch about $100 for the precious metals. Enough for a drug fix.
>


Non-California cats for a 4-Runner run about 80 bucks.
Unless you pay a lot more I wouldn't bother trying to theft-proof it.
A righteous thief might slice $800 of your tires when he sees how
you want to deny him his fix.

>It's not that the cables are so hard to cut, it's the tools they use to
>get the converter in 3 minutes won't work if the cables are blocking the
>pipes, and the cables are more time-consuming to cut.
>


They'll start carrying snips for the cables. Might even make a
special trip back with snips.

>The bar stock is actually easier to cut with a battery powered
>reciprocating saw than the steel cable.


The cage would have many bars to cut, some bucking the saw blade
against the cat or elsewhere.
Might have to drill through the floor to bolt in the cage.
This entire exercise is too stupid for words, whether it's wrapping a
cat with cables or putting a honking cage over it.

The answer is cracking down on the scrap yards with some perp walks.

--Vic


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Old 11 Sep 2010, 08:41 pm   #7 (permalink)
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+1 Depending on year the converter can be found for cheaper online:
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...rter&scoring=p

There are other things the thief can steal with minimal noise and basic
tools: rear bumper, tow hitch, antenna, running board, spare wheel, mud
flaps, tailgate (for pickups), license plate... No way to protect them all.

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"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Non-California cats for a 4-Runner run about 80 bucks.
> Unless you pay a lot more I wouldn't bother trying to theft-proof it.
> A righteous thief might slice $800 of your tires when he sees how
> you want to deny him his fix.




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Old 11 Sep 2010, 08:57 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:41:10 -0400, First of One <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>+1 Depending on year the converter can be found for cheaper online:
>http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...rter&scoring=p


>There are other things the thief can steal with minimal noise and basic
>tools: rear bumper, tow hitch, antenna, running board, spare wheel, mud
>flaps, tailgate (for pickups), license plate... No way to protect them all.


The front market lights alone are good for a grand.
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Old 11 Sep 2010, 09:00 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On 9/11/2010 5:41 PM, First of One wrote:
> +1 Depending on year the converter can be found for cheaper online:
> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...rter&scoring=p
>
> There are other things the thief can steal with minimal noise and basic
> tools: rear bumper, tow hitch, antenna, running board, spare wheel, mud
> flaps, tailgate (for pickups), license plate... No way to protect them all.


But those are hard to fence because they are so vehicle specific, cats
have an intrinsic value because of the metals inside, which is why it's
such a hot item.

No lock or alarm is going to stop a determined thief, but these guys
swoop in with a reciprocating saw looking for an easy score.
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Old 11 Sep 2010, 09:02 pm   #10 (permalink)
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SMS wrote the following:
> I got a call on Wednesday night from a friend the next street over who
> had the catalytic converter stolen off his 4-Runner during the night.
>
> Searching on-line, I learned that Toyota trucks/SUVs are a prime
> target for catalytic converter thieves because of the high clearance
> and the ease of unbolting it or cutting the pipe.
>
> I've been looking at the various theft protection devices:
>


My cat is wired to a frag grenade. If the circuit is broken... bye, bye!

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