Help! 86 Toyota Truck Stalled on a hot day while idling for 20 min

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Old 27 Sep 2010, 02:18 pm   #1 (permalink)
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My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.

This truck has 180,000 miles on it.

Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
a tank of gas.

I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
gallon of gas got the truck started.

Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
a stuck float etc.

Thanks for any input


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Old 27 Sep 2010, 02:46 pm   #2 (permalink)
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In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
<kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>
>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>
>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>
>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>a tank of gas.
>
>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>
>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>a stuck float etc.
>
>Thanks for any input


Fuel tank breather problem?

regards
>
>


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Old 27 Sep 2010, 04:12 pm   #3 (permalink)
Sir F. A. Rien
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Fritz <kh6zv9@yahoo.com> found these unused words:

>
>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>
>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>
>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>a tank of gas.
>
>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>
>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>a stuck float etc.
>
>Thanks for any input
>

Sound like a vapor lock, possibly some water in the tank.
When did you last purge, replace fuel filter, add a 'water remover'?
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Old 27 Sep 2010, 04:22 pm   #4 (permalink)
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In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>
>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>
>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>
>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>a tank of gas.
>>
>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>>
>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>a stuck float etc.
>>
>>Thanks for any input

>
>Fuel tank breather problem?
>
>regards
>>
>>

>

or fuel filter.
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Old 27 Sep 2010, 07:42 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:22:19 GMT, someone@some.domain
(someone@some.domain) wrote:

>In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
>><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>>
>>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>>
>>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>>
>>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>>a tank of gas.
>>>
>>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>>>
>>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>>a stuck float etc.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any input

>>
>>Fuel tank breather problem?
>>
>>regards
>>>
>>>

>>

>or fuel filter.

I'd say vapour lock or in-accurate fuel guage - but what kind of
idiot idles a truck for half an hour with the AC on in 110F
weather????
You are just BEGGING for trouble - not to mention the un-necessary
polution - particularly with a carbureted 1986 vehicle.
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Old 27 Sep 2010, 07:52 pm   #6 (permalink)
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clare@snyder.on.ca found these unused words:

>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:22:19 GMT, someone@some.domain
>(someone@some.domain) wrote:
>
>>In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
>>><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>>>
>>>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>>>
>>>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>>>
>>>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>>>a tank of gas.
>>>>
>>>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>>>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>>>>
>>>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>>>a stuck float etc.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any input
>>>
>>>Fuel tank breather problem?
>>>
>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>or fuel filter.

> I'd say vapour lock or in-accurate fuel guage - but what kind of
>idiot idles a truck for half an hour with the AC on in 110F
>weather????


The kind that lives in Las Vegas ... usual thing to see them idling while
waiting for drive up bank, food, dry cleaning, pharmacy ... etc!

> You are just BEGGING for trouble - not to mention the un-necessary
>polution - particularly with a carbureted 1986 vehicle.


Often see the engines in flames soon afterwards.

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Old 27 Sep 2010, 09:15 pm   #7 (permalink)
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In article <mra2a6pme2pepj5gmf3jpche1uvavk7jas@4ax.com>, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:22:19 GMT, someone@some.domain
>(someone@some.domain) wrote:
>
>>In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb

> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
>>><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>>>
>>>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>>>
>>>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>>>
>>>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>>>a tank of gas.
>>>>
>>>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>>>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>>>>
>>>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>>>a stuck float etc.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any input
>>>
>>>Fuel tank breather problem?
>>>
>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>or fuel filter.

> I'd say vapour lock or in-accurate fuel guage - but what kind of
>idiot idles a truck for half an hour with the AC on in 110F
>weather????
> You are just BEGGING for trouble - not to mention the un-necessary
>polution - particularly with a carbureted 1986 vehicle.

idiots are people who run their caddies or benz with the ac going for 2 hours
to keep fido cool while they have dinner.
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Old 27 Sep 2010, 09:16 pm   #8 (permalink)
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In article <oeb2a6poksluois434jq3lag9r49sjf84j@4ax.com>, Sir F. A. Rien <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote:
>clare@snyder.on.ca found these unused words:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:22:19 GMT, someone@some.domain
>>(someone@some.domain) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb

> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
>>>><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>>>>
>>>>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>>>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>>>>
>>>>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>>>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>>>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>>>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>>>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>>>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>>>>a tank of gas.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>>>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>>>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>>>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>>>>gallon of gas got the truck started.
>>>>>
>>>>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>>>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>>>>a stuck float etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any input
>>>>
>>>>Fuel tank breather problem?
>>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>or fuel filter.

>> I'd say vapour lock or in-accurate fuel guage - but what kind of
>>idiot idles a truck for half an hour with the AC on in 110F
>>weather????

>
>The kind that lives in Las Vegas ... usual thing to see them idling while
>waiting for drive up bank, food, dry cleaning, pharmacy ... etc!
>
>> You are just BEGGING for trouble - not to mention the un-necessary
>>polution - particularly with a carbureted 1986 vehicle.

>
>Often see the engines in flames soon afterwards.
>

the cvs by umc is a good spot to see the pillhead's cars boil over.
we call it the charleston chew.
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Old 27 Sep 2010, 09:37 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:15:45 GMT, someone@some.domain
(someone@some.domain) wrote:

>In article <mra2a6pme2pepj5gmf3jpche1uvavk7jas@4ax.com>, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:22:19 GMT, someone@some.domain
>>(someone@some.domain) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb

>> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
>>>><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>>>>
>>>>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>>>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>>>>
>>>>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>>>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>>>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>>>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>>>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>>>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>>>>a tank of gas.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>>>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>>>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>>>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>>>>gallon of gas in the tank and I got the truck started.
>>>>>
>>>>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>>>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>>>>a stuck float etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any input
>>>>
>>>>Fuel tank breather problem?
>>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>or fuel filter.

>> I'd say vapour lock or in-accurate fuel guage - but what kind of
>>idiot idles a truck for half an hour with the AC on in 110F
>>weather????
>> You are just BEGGING for trouble - not to mention the un-necessary
>>polution - particularly with a carbureted 1986 vehicle.

>idiots are people who run their caddies or benz with the ac going for 2 hours
>to keep fido cool while they have dinner.


One thing I did not mention was that the whole time I was stuck in
that line at fast food joint with now way out I was constantly
monitoring my temp gauge and it never creeped passed the half way
mark. In fact it was a bit below normal .

This morning I hopped in the old truck and it started up like a new
vehicle.

Thanks for all the input, I think the idling in the heat did the
truck in for that day. Won't do that again.

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Old 27 Sep 2010, 10:35 pm   #10 (permalink)
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In article <leh2a61vi7n533cvj0kc3uenf64256g2qi@4ax.com>, Fritz <kh6zv9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:15:45 GMT, someone@some.domain
>(someone@some.domain) wrote:
>
>>In article <mra2a6pme2pepj5gmf3jpche1uvavk7jas@4ax.com>, clare@snyder.on.ca

> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:22:19 GMT, someone@some.domain
>>>(someone@some.domain) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <l5vvkrHqZOoMFwMy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>In message <bdn1a613vk2epb9hbvudi88e72snjcmuod@4ax.com>, Fritz
>>>>><kh6zv9@yahoo.com> writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My 1986 Toyota Truck 22r engine with a Carburator had a problem
>>>>>>yesterday and I would like you all to kick it around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This truck has 180,000 miles on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yesterday was a real hot day 110 degrees and I had just driven 40
>>>>>>miles on the freeway at 60 mph with the a/c on. When I got near my
>>>>>>destination I pulled in to a fast food restaurant where I got stuck in
>>>>>>line Idling my engine for 30 minutes with the A/C on. All of a
>>>>>>sudden the engine just stopped. It would not start. Cranked and
>>>>>>cranked but nothing. My gas gauge was registering below a quarter of
>>>>>>a tank of gas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had to be towed home. When I got the truck home I shot some carb
>>>>>>cleaner in the carb and the engine would start for a second and then
>>>>>>die. I then tapped the carburator with small tool (thinking the
>>>>>>float may be stuck) and shot a bunch of carb cleaner and put in a
>>>>>>gallon of gas in the tank and I got the truck started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Should I be worried that this will happen again shortly or was this
>>>>>>likely caused by Idling, heat, gas tank not full enough, and maybe
>>>>>>a stuck float etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any input
>>>>>
>>>>>Fuel tank breather problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>or fuel filter.
>>> I'd say vapour lock or in-accurate fuel guage - but what kind of
>>>idiot idles a truck for half an hour with the AC on in 110F
>>>weather????
>>> You are just BEGGING for trouble - not to mention the un-necessary
>>>polution - particularly with a carbureted 1986 vehicle.

>>idiots are people who run their caddies or benz with the ac going for 2 hours
>>to keep fido cool while they have dinner.

>
>One thing I did not mention was that the whole time I was stuck in
>that line at fast food joint with now way out I was constantly
>monitoring my temp gauge and it never creeped passed the half way
>mark. In fact it was a bit below normal .
>
>This morning I hopped in the old truck and it started up like a new
>vehicle.
>
>Thanks for all the input, I think the idling in the heat did the
>truck in for that day. Won't do that again.
>

i get stuck in traffic in 110f heat for 30-90 minutes and my old supra stays
cool and keeps me cool. i do keep the motor, cooling system and ac in great
shape. i don't trust anyone else to charge the ac. i converted it and
rebuilt it. first and only time but them supra's have a zillion support
groups and i actually know how to take good advice.
check the fuel filters anyway.....
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