WARNING - 19" Wheels on Highlander, etc.

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Old 02 Nov 2009, 01:12 pm   #1 (permalink)
Joe AutoDrill
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Default WARNING - 19" Wheels on Highlander, etc.

After putting on 20,000 miles of suburban and highway riding, our tires are
about done on the 2008 Highlander Limited...

No unusual wear and the alignment is fine...

But we are finding it VERY hard to come across acceptable replacement tires.
All the local discount places don't carry the unique 19" size and online is
possible, but with no guarantees of quality other than the ratings.

We know for sure we will not go with the stock brand... We want to try and
get a bit better mileage this next time.

So... The warning is that if you have a Highlander or "other" with 19"
rims, start looking for tires early and make sure that you know what it is
that you are getting into.

We tried very hard to convince the dealer to give us the smaller tires off
the sport and give our fancy rims to the next sport customer as a free
upgrade but failed to convince them that it would be a good deal for them...
Maybe they were hoping I would return to them for tires I guess.

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Old 02 Nov 2009, 05:44 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: WARNING - 19" Wheels on Highlander, etc.

"Joe AutoDrill" <autodrill@yunx.com> found these unused words:

>After putting on 20,000 miles of suburban and highway riding, our tires are
>about done on the 2008 Highlander Limited...
>
>No unusual wear and the alignment is fine...
>
>But we are finding it VERY hard to come across acceptable replacement tires.
>All the local discount places don't carry the unique 19" size and online is
>possible, but with no guarantees of quality other than the ratings.
>
>We know for sure we will not go with the stock brand... We want to try and
>get a bit better mileage this next time.
>
>So... The warning is that if you have a Highlander or "other" with 19"
>rims, start looking for tires early and make sure that you know what it is
>that you are getting into.
>
>We tried very hard to convince the dealer to give us the smaller tires off
>the sport and give our fancy rims to the next sport customer as a free
>upgrade but failed to convince them that it would be a good deal for them...
>Maybe they were hoping I would return to them for tires I guess.
>
>Regards,
>Joe Agro, Jr.


Ummmm, you could always REPLACE the rims to get good available tire
selection and then put the 'fancy' up for sale on ebunko or craig's list ...

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Old 03 Nov 2009, 08:30 am   #3 (permalink)
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> Ummmm, you could always REPLACE the rims to get good available tire
> selection and then put the 'fancy' up for sale on ebunko or craig's list
> ...


There are reports on the internet saying teh brake calipers are different
from the Sport to the Limited (17/18" to the 19") and thus the smaller rims
are not simply transferable.

I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it either.

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Old 03 Nov 2009, 10:17 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Joe AutoDrill" <autodrill@yunx.com> wrote in message
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>> Ummmm, you could always REPLACE the rims to get good available tire
>> selection and then put the 'fancy' up for sale on ebunko or craig's
>> list ...

>
> There are reports on the internet saying teh brake calipers are
> different from the Sport to the Limited (17/18" to the 19") and thus
> the smaller rims are not simply transferable.
>
> I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it
> either.


The Toyota parts catalog does not indicate any difference in the
brakes based on the sport model (compared to standard model).

See http://tinyurl.com/ygrk8ft

Patrts information from Rock Auto supports the conclsuion that the
SPort and Standard models use the same brakes.

I hate the mania for big shiny wheels. They ruin the ride, they are
easily damaged, they provide an excuse for tire manufacturers to jack
up the price of replacement tires.....

Ed


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Old 03 Nov 2009, 10:42 am   #5 (permalink)
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>> There are reports on the internet saying the brake calipers are different
>> from the Sport to the Limited (17/18" to the 19") and thus the smaller
>> rims are not simply transferable.
>>
>> I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it either.

>
> The Toyota parts catalog does not indicate any difference in the brakes
> based on the sport model (compared to standard model).
>
> See http://tinyurl.com/ygrk8ft
>
> Patrts information from Rock Auto supports the conclsuion that the SPort
> and Standard models use the same brakes.
>
> I hate the mania for big shiny wheels. They ruin the ride, they are easily
> damaged, they provide an excuse for tire manufacturers to jack up the
> price of replacement tires.....
>
> Ed


I'm going to have to look into that... The tires and wheels are decently
sized, but this whole issue of finding replacements is a nightmare.
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Old 03 Nov 2009, 10:47 am   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: WARNING - 19" Wheels on Highlander, etc.

"Joe AutoDrill" <autodrill@yunx.com> found these unused words:

>> Ummmm, you could always REPLACE the rims to get good available tire
>> selection and then put the 'fancy' up for sale on ebunko or craig's list
>> ...

>
>There are reports on the internet saying teh brake calipers are different
>from the Sport to the Limited (17/18" to the 19") and thus the smaller rims
>are not simply transferable.
>
>I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it either.
>

That would presume that you also replaced the inner hub. I don't think the
brakes are on the -=removable=- wheel rims!

Surely any rim that fits the hole pattern properly could be mounted?

As to what the new owner may choose to do ...

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Old 03 Nov 2009, 10:48 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Nov 3, 10:17*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I hate the mania for big shiny wheels. They ruin the ride, they are
> easily damaged, they provide an excuse for tire manufacturers to jack
> up the price of replacement tires.....


I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
They're absolute crap in snow or mud.

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Old 04 Nov 2009, 08:23 am   #8 (permalink)
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>I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
>wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
>They're absolute crap in snow or mud.


Here in the civilized world (NJ), we have very little need for tires that
are excellent in snow and mud... Maybe two or three times a year does it
matter that the tread is agressive enough. Ride quality on the highways and
back roads is more important.

Now... This big rim thing is crazy and I think we can agree on that.
Stupidity at the "look what I've got!" level.
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Old 04 Nov 2009, 11:05 am   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: WARNING - 19" Wheels on Highlander, etc.

"Joe AutoDrill" <autodrill@yunx.com> found these unused words:

>>I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
>>wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
>>They're absolute crap in snow or mud.

>
>Here in the civilized world (NJ), we have very little need for tires that
>are excellent in snow and mud... Maybe two or three times a year does it
>matter that the tread is agressive enough. Ride quality on the highways and
>back roads is more important.
>
>Now... This big rim thing is crazy and I think we can agree on that.
>Stupidity at the "look what I've got!" level.


New Joisey ... Civilized ???

Been up above my ar..e in snow there [central/northern]. Even military
trucks had tough going.

Now the southern ... <G>


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Old 04 Nov 2009, 11:23 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:23:47 -0500, "Joe AutoDrill"
<autodrill@yunx.com> wrote:

> >I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
> >wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
> >They're absolute crap in snow or mud.


Thursday in Santa Fe I saw some clown driving down the road in a
vehicle with wheels too large and too wide to fit between the
painted lines on the road. The vehicle had to swerve to avoid
traffic to the left and right of it.

I am utterly baffled over why someone would do that. Perhaps the
owner is unhappy with his penis and he wants everyone to know it.

> Here in the civilized world (NJ), we have very little need for tires that
> are excellent in snow and mud... Maybe two or three times a year does it
> matter that the tread is agressive enough. Ride quality on the highways and
> back roads is more important.
>
> Now... This big rim thing is crazy and I think we can agree on that.
> Stupidity at the "look what I've got!" level.


Where I live and drive (the Jicarilla Apache Reservation and the
Navajo Reservation), everyone who can afford mud tires will buy
them. Many thousands of people live at the ends of red dirt roads
(the best ones are called "light duty roads" and the worse are
called "primitive") which are impassible many times of the year,
winter and summer. City Slickers don't believe us when we tell
them they cannot go home until the roads dry out: several of our
guests tried to leave anyhow, and came walking back on foot.

Mud tires = GOOD THINGS TO HAVE when needed. These clowns driving
around in shiny new pickups in the cities that never touch a dirt
road that have large wide mud tires on their vehicles.... what the
hell could they be thinking?


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