Toyota not saying removing floor mat is ultimate fix

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Old 20 Nov 2009, 12:06 am   #1 (permalink)
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the Alberto lawyers allege the accident was caused by "the vehicle's
propensity for confusion in the sensors and electronics processors" in
the throttle control unit "as the result of transient signals."

Intermittent radio waves or electronic interference will lock down the
cruise control and the brakes won't override the system," George
Hilborn, a Birmingham lawyer and one of six lawyers for the Alberto
estate, told the Free Press on Tuesday.

But Toyota is not saying its request that owners of about 3.8 million
Toyota and Lexus vehicles remove or replace driver-side floor mats is
the ultimate fix."

Full article at:
http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...eyond-the-mats
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Old 20 Nov 2009, 02:08 am   #2 (permalink)
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On Nov 20, 12:06*am, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> the Alberto lawyers allege the accident was caused by "the vehicle's
> propensity for confusion in the sensors and electronics processors" in
> the throttle control unit "as the result of transient signals."
>
> Intermittent radio waves or electronic interference will lock down the
> cruise control and the brakes won't override the system," George
> Hilborn, a Birmingham lawyer and one of six lawyers for the Alberto
> estate, told the Free Press on Tuesday.
>
> But Toyota is not saying its request that owners of about 3.8 million
> Toyota and Lexus vehicles remove or replace driver-side floor mats is
> the ultimate fix."
>
> Full article at:http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...370/Toyota-loo...


Sounds like mostly BS to me.. :/
They jammed the throttle. Which means they need to make sure
the correct floor mats are in the cars. Which may or may not even
be Toyota's fault depending on who installed the mats.
I'm afraid most of the rest about the sensors/processors relating to
throttle, or even cruise control is mostly bovine excrement conjured
by a lawyer with $$$ signs in his eyeballs.
Most CPU's etc in vehicles are fairly well decoupled using ferrite
beads, etc.. Besides, it's not like he had a ham radio in the car.

I still don't understand why the guy didn't just throw it in neutral
if
he couldn't shut off the ignition. And this was a cop, who generally
I'd expect to know that and act a bit more cool in such a situation.
Like calling on a cell phone is going to help.. :/
Lurch imitation... gggrrrrrooooooooooaaaan.




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Old 20 Nov 2009, 07:36 am   #3 (permalink)
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In spite of all this hard evidence that Toyota is a criminally insane
company, you're still an idiot John.

GIga
"john" <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> the Alberto lawyers allege the accident was caused by "the vehicle's
> propensity for confusion in the sensors and electronics processors" in
> the throttle control unit "as the result of transient signals."
>
> Intermittent radio waves or electronic interference will lock down the
> cruise control and the brakes won't override the system," George
> Hilborn, a Birmingham lawyer and one of six lawyers for the Alberto
> estate, told the Free Press on Tuesday.
>
> But Toyota is not saying its request that owners of about 3.8 million
> Toyota and Lexus vehicles remove or replace driver-side floor mats is
> the ultimate fix."
>
> Full article at:
> http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...eyond-the-mats


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Old 20 Nov 2009, 03:56 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Nov 20, 12:06*am, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> the Alberto lawyers allege the accident was caused by "the vehicle's
> propensity for confusion in the sensors and electronics processors" in
> the throttle control unit "as the result of transient signals."
>
> Intermittent radio waves or electronic interference will lock down the
> cruise control and the brakes won't override the system," George
> Hilborn, a Birmingham lawyer and one of six lawyers for the Alberto
> estate, told the Free Press on Tuesday.
>
> But Toyota is not saying its request that owners of about 3.8 million
> Toyota and Lexus vehicles remove or replace driver-side floor mats is
> the ultimate fix."
>
> Full article at:http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...370/Toyota-loo...

Put down phone, put down beer,
Put in neutral, pull emergency brake, turn off ignition.
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Old 20 Nov 2009, 05:06 pm   #5 (permalink)
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There you go again. Another negative report about Toyota. You jealous
that you can't afford to purchase a Toyota or Lexus? You still stuck with
that 10 year old Kia with 235,000 miles on it?

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Old 20 Nov 2009, 05:15 pm   #6 (permalink)
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I would try the foot bake first.



"ransley" <Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 12:06 am, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> the Alberto lawyers allege the accident was caused by "the vehicle's
> propensity for confusion in the sensors and electronics processors" in
> the throttle control unit "as the result of transient signals."
>
> Intermittent radio waves or electronic interference will lock down the
> cruise control and the brakes won't override the system," George
> Hilborn, a Birmingham lawyer and one of six lawyers for the Alberto
> estate, told the Free Press on Tuesday.
>
> But Toyota is not saying its request that owners of about 3.8 million
> Toyota and Lexus vehicles remove or replace driver-side floor mats is
> the ultimate fix."
>
> Full article
> at:http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...370/Toyota-loo...

Put down phone, put down beer,
Put in neutral, pull emergency brake, turn off ignition.


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Old 21 Nov 2009, 04:59 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Nov 20, 4:56*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 12:06*am, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:> the Alberto lawyers allege the accident was caused by "the vehicle's
> > propensity for confusion in the sensors and electronics processors" in
> > the throttle control unit "as the result of transient signals."

>
> > Intermittent radio waves or electronic interference will lock down the
> > cruise control and the brakes won't override the system," George
> > Hilborn, a Birmingham lawyer and one of six lawyers for the Alberto
> > estate, told the Free Press on Tuesday.

>
> > But Toyota is not saying its request that owners of about 3.8 million
> > Toyota and Lexus vehicles remove or replace driver-side floor mats is
> > the ultimate fix."

>
> > Full article at:http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...370/Toyota-loo...

>
> Put down phone, put down beer,
> Put in neutral, pull emergency brake, turn off ignition.


Thank you.
The fact that we are still talking about his is highlighted by the
fact that most can't believe it even happened an to whom it happened.
I know when I read it I was stunned. These types of things are why we
have warnings on plastic that comes with furniture and stuff we buy,
that says 'placing plastic over your head can cause suffocation'. Or,
drinking antifreeze can result in death. Come on....

I think people who end up dead (before their time) often want to 'be'
dead..
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Old 21 Nov 2009, 05:03 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Nov 20, 6:06*pm, "Gordo's Psychiatrist" <go...@psyc.net> wrote:
> There you go again. *Another negative report about Toyota. * You jealous
> that you can't afford to purchase a Toyota or Lexus? *You still stuck with
> that 10 year old Kia with 235,000 miles on it?


A kia with 235k miles on it? Maybe I will get one..:0)
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